A few years ago, I went to a fireside given by some famous parents, the Eyres. They had a lot of good advice about raising successful and happy kids but one thing Richard Eyre said that evening that has stood out in my memory was to pick your battles with your children very carefully and the ones you decide to fight, make sure you win.
Much advice was given about what matters and what doesn't in the grand scheme of things, and when all is said and done, most of the things parents choose to fight with their kids about don't matter nearly as much as we think they do.
I do not consider myself a tyrant. I let a messy room slide, rarely balk when I discover that one of my boys has helped himself to a snack (unless they eat it in their rooms or in the basement and then I go nutso) and make it a point not to over schedule them so they have plenty of time to play together as brothers and read at night. They choose what to wear each day (even if it's the parks and rec game jersey....again (and because Jay was a basketball coach, we have four of them)), wear their hair they way they want it (they don't care) and in general, are a happy, agency-enjoying lot.
Some of the things I do insist on are:
Good grades. Both Seth and Sam are exceptionally bright and they both know their father and I expect their grades to reflect their abilities.
Respect for others. This includes being on time for things, following the rules, using good language and playing fairly with their peers.
Church attendance. Luckily, this isn't something we've ever had to battle about.
Learning to play the piano.
Yup. I'm that mom that won't let her kids quit the piano. I've known too many individuals who either quit piano themselves when they reached the awkward I'm-not-good-yet-but-it's-getting-harder-and-less-fun-so-I'm-not-going-to-do-it-anymore stage or let their child quite when they got to the same stage. And they all seem sad about it. Obviously, it's the kind of activity that is hard to stick with, which is why I've decided to take away the option.
I made it clear with Seth and Sam from the get-go that learning to play the piano well is a long-term goal. As soon as we were settled and found a teacher, they understood that this was something they were going to do until they graduated from high school. Like school, it was going to be a part of their lives in good times and in bad. They could thank me later.
I knew I'd need a stiff upper lip during the tumultuous middle school years, a period of life I like to call the dark ages and know from experience about needing to have a personal rage against the piano machine. Oh...I hated it. I wanted to quit so, so badly. And then, without fanfare or warning, it got fun again. I'm so grateful that my parents wouldn't let me quit. That being said, I never expected the battle with Seth to begin so early. He just started a little more than a year and a half ago and has so much natural talent and ability. He learned the beginner stuff quickly and eagerly but now he's reached "the stage."
His music is more challenging and not as much fun for him to play. His teacher is very talented as well as patient, and believes he can develop into a fine pianist. I know that too. He's got a math-understanding mind and the theory behind the intervals, chords and harmonies make sense to him. But, the songs he's been assigned lately take longer to learn and his technique and sight reading skills make the learning slow and hard.
So, that stiff upper lip? It's harder to keep than I thought it would be. I hate that he's miserable and I hate being the kind of mom that makes him do something that makes him miserable, but...I still think I'm right. I think it's important to stick with something, even if it's hard. Not everything. He doesn't have to stick with football or choir or origami folding or whatever he wants to try. (He has never folded origami. I was just trying to be inclusive). Just piano.
Today's lesson was better than most in recent memory. He passed off Schumann's Merry Farmer (hallelujah!) and admitted to liking his spooky recital song. It gave me a glimmer of hope. But, I still know I'm going to have to wear the armor again tomorrow when its time to practice. It's starting to get chinks.
Do you have a thing you fight for? Is it the piano? Is it a battle worth fighting for?
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
Going To Battle (and Hoping It's Worth It)
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I force them into swim lessons. It's worth fighting for because it is, quite literally, life or death.
I haven't pushed piano as hard, surprisingly. The oldest can barely play at all, and with him, no, it wasn't worth the epic, ongoing piano battles. But that was very much a personal, individual decision, one I made reluctantly.
Find some music your son LOVES, and let him play it. Bargain: he gets his fun stuff if he'll also do this boring, but technically challenging piece. Or whatever. I have a cabinet full of horrible piano arrangements of popular 80s music; that's what kept me practicing my Bach. My teacher was very smart that way. Good luck!
I think your list is worth fighting for Lucy. Battle on!
One thing you might consider is giving the boys an end goal in piano verses a life sentence and see if that helps win the battle. Once we reached a certain skill level (set ahead of time by my mom) she said we could quit the piano, or keep going but it would be our choice not hers when we got there - she got five of us girls to that point. I reached it by 9th grade and quit, but picked lessons up a few years later again. To practice well or not to practice well is a whole lot easier to answer with a goal in mind.
Good luck with however you push your boys to greatness!
I mean lead your boys to greatness :)
That's what's hard. I know a lot of people who want their kids to be good enough to play any hymn in the hymnbook, and while I think that is a fantastic goal, and a great service to our church, I feel like if I set that as our goal, all I'll get is a bunch of sloppily played hymns.
What was the decided upon skill level?
This is one I faced growing up. I really liked piano as a kid- I even went to piano camp in the summers for 4 years! Then I got to be a teen and I wanted to play volleyball and try out for plays and join the debate team and ballroom dance team. I wanted social things! Something had to give (time wise) and my mom let me choose. On the one hand I am so grateful for that because I was trusted to follow my interests and I think being in sports as a teen shaped me, being in drama made me outgoing etc. But on the other hand...I really wish I hadn't quit piano because I was good! BUT- I will tell you that 13 years later I am following along with Linc's lessons and it has all come back to me. Those early years of practice and theory and all that are coming back!
I think it was hard for my dad and teacher for me to quit because I really got piano- it wasn't a struggle for me, I liked it and it wasn't a battle to practice. I wonder if I hadn't been a natural if they would have cared as much?
If your boys are naturals...I say encourage that. But for me, I wouldn't try to make them into piano players if their interests follow another path. Not all kids are musically inclined just like some kids struggle to be athletic! Just my two cents!
This mantra of 'choose your battles' has been following me around for the past couple of weeks. It just keeps popping up and the voice in the back of my head is telling me that I'm a little too tough on my kids. Time to ease up a bit. Message received.
I think YOU should trust your instincts on this piano thing. It's great to ask for advice, and you've gotten some very wise counsel from obviously caring parents. However, only you are entitled to specific inspiration for your children. Just listen to your heart. Easier said than done, I know.
I battle for the piano, too. Thomas can do it, just chooses to be lazy about it. I have so much pity for his teacher who has watched him come to piano week after week with no progress. But we have finally (finally!) gotten into a routine with piano practice. He is passing songs off after a few weeks instead of a month. I hope he is learning something. He is so talented at it and has such a great ear. I am envious. But yeah, I get the not letting them quit the piano thing. I've told thomas the same thing as you. He will play the piano!!
The battles at our house (at least with my oldest)are over much more basic, life/social skills. So of course I think they're worth fighting if I am to raise a contributing member of society.
Piano is not on my list of battles but I certainly see why it would be important to you. Seth will definitely turn out to be a great young man with or without piano skills. That being said, I am often asked what I would do if Alyssa wanted to quit gymnastics. It is clearly her thing and it would be hard to walk away from a talent like that. Jon has even said she'd have to have a pretty good reason to quit. Thankfully, she still loves it with every fiber of her being. But I'm not too naive to know that this love affair may not last forever.
No...I get it. Piano isn't a life essential. In mormon lingo, it's not "necessary for his eternal salvation"
That's why I wonder if I'm being ridiculous in choosing this as one of our battles. I feel like its important. I know they have the musical talent to be good. I'm trying, really hard, to be thoughtful about it and not follow this path because I've just decided it will be so. In a nutshell, I'm trying not to pick a stupid fight.
I hope Alyssa never wants to quit gymnastics, but as good as she is, she will most likely find herself under enormous pressure at times from coaches etc to be perfect. I can see how someone who is at an elite level of something, like gymnastics or piano, could come to resent it. I don't know what Alyssa's future holds (although I thinks she is good enough to go all the way!) I am under no illusions that any of my children will grow up to be anything but wonderfully ordinary people.
Thanks for the insights and parallels. And, Hannah, I love that you're playing again.
I quit taking piano after middle school. I think Emily set that precedence, plus I didn't show the aptitude that you and Maureen did.
I regret the decision to quit. As a bishop I loathe our priesthood opening exercises always singing hymns a capella. I wish I could sit and play at least "We Thank Thee oh God for a Prophet"... we'd sing it every week if we had someone who could play something...
But hey, I can still play the beginning to "Eye of the Tiger" by Survivor and "Jump" by Van Halen...
So Seth, take it from your uncle... keep playing... you've got a natural talent that will pay off in years to come.
Jon, you left out some of your best repertoire! Love Walks In and Knight Ruppert! Besides, who needs to play when you possess mad conducting skills like you do?
I"ve loved reading this post and the comments. I say battle on. Of course you are going to take it as it comes and will make any decision to stop if and when that time comes.
We have some great male role models in our ward who play the organ in sacrament meeting. They also loved seeing John Schmidt in concert and thought piano was much cooler after that. Love ya!
My mom let me quit as a kid and feel mad about it even though it's what I wanted at the time. This is what I have learned from that experience. If my parents had taken a bigger roll in my piano lessons and practicing than maybe I would have valued it more. Because of that I try to take an active roll with my girls so maybe they will feel differently about practicing and will eventually love playing because it was something "we" did.
oh and yes I think it is worth fighting for...
We are right there with you in our house good grades and yup piano till you move out. Luke is where Seth is and it is really hard and lots of tears are shed each day when the piano chore has to be fulfilled. We started doing reward charts and that has helped with incentive to practice...good luck. I totally fill your pain!
In my mind, the piano is an art form that is slowly being lost. It is one of the easiest and most needed instruments, yet fewer and fewer people are learning to play it. I feel that it IS and essential and a battle I have chosen to fight. I know my children would rather not play it, for me it was my punching bag. I would play it when I was mad or sad and it helped me greatly. I know my children might not see this or even care that they know how to play the piano. But, I care and someday they will have the blessing of sharing it with their family, school, and church. They may, possibly, even enjoy it!
In my mind, the piano is an art form that is slowly being lost. It is one of the easiest and most needed instruments, yet fewer and fewer people are learning to play it. I feel that it IS and essential and a battle I have chosen to fight. I know my children would rather not play it, for me it was my punching bag. I would play it when I was mad or sad and it helped me greatly. I know my children might not see this or even care that they know how to play the piano. But, I care and someday they will have the blessing of sharing it with their family, school, and church. They may, possibly, even enjoy it!
I think the battle is a natural part of the dance between child and parent. Bryce has been passionate about drums since 2nd grade. In 3rd grade, he used his own saved money to purchase a marimba. Then, came a drum set, then a double bass pedal, cymbals, etc. He has natural ability and seems to really love playing. Yet... the battle is still there.
His double bass pedal broke several months back and instead of replacing it with a reasonably priced one, he wanted one of the best (almost $500). Since HS band required marching band participation (something we didn't feel we had time to commit to), we allowed him to remove band from his schedule. But, our deal-breaker was that if he left band and we helped purchase the new pedal, he must commit to daily practice and weekly lessons until the end of school.
Last week, we went to his first fall lesson with a student at Butler University. You'd have thought I was breaking his arm, the way he went on about how much of his day was being wasted (takes an hour transporting round trip for the half hour lesson).
I agree with others. Hold your ground. You won't regret it and I doubt he will either (even if he seems to now).
Interesting. I was coming to leave my one-liner comment. I'm a little surprised that this turned into a real discussion.
I like that you have a list... I have it in my head but not articulated.
I agree with you about the piano. We had told the kids they take lessons until they graduate from it (our teacher graduates them at "level 6" where she says they could begin teaching. Several of the students were 15-16 which seemed like good timing for the busyness of life). BUT our teacher just quit so now I am scrambling to find someone else, it feels like we are starting over and I'm really sad about it.
I have to agree with everyone else. I too quit after 8 years and now whenever I walk into a house with a piano I have this great desire to sit and play. To push myself to remember those notes and keys.
I love the Eyres and heard them several years ago when we lived in Utah and that night had a real impact on me. I was just thinking about doing a post about my experience with their book about talking to your kids about sex because it was so great (the book and my experience with my oldest thanks to the book).
Anyways, fight on. And I second the girl above who mentioned Jon Schmidt! If you are ever in Utah when he has a show it will blow your socks off!
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