Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Covering Nakedness

As soon as the hostess seated us, I cringed.  There, on the wall behind our table, hung a painting of a nude woman.  It wasn't a raunchy painting by any means.  On the contrary, it was quite...calming.  She, the nude, sat near the edge of a river on one leg with her other leg extended behind her.  Her bottom was fully exposed, but only one breast was showing, the other hidden behind her arm as she leaned over the bank.  I suppose she could have been at the river washing her clothes or, perhaps, her kitchen dishes, although her reclined position would have made any thorough scrubbing difficult.

"I should have just taken them to McDonalds!" I thought.  But, I don't like McDonalds.  And I was feeling fickle at three o'clock in the afternoon while we waited in town for Seth to finish his Destination Imagination meeting.  So I took Sam and Henry to a sit down restaurant in hopes of killing time and better food.  The dining room was closed, due to the odd hour of our repast, so we were seated in the bar area.  The Olympics were playing on the three televisions across the room and I quickly and strategically positioned my boys with their backs to the wall, crayons in hand and several games of tic-tac-toe.

Inevitably, Henry spied the painting.  With a grin on his face, he pointed to the picture and said, "Picture, Mom!"

I acted uninterested and simply replied, "Uh-huh."

"Mom," Henry insisted, "There's a bum!"

Those words drew Sam's attention to the painting.  As his eyes took in the body parts Jay and I have been conscientious to teach must be talked about appropriately and with respect, he immediately became embarrassed and covered his mouth with his hands while he looked at me with very worried eyes.  I don't want my boys to have weird hang ups about the human body so I explained, rather poorly, the various reasons why that picture was not "bad" but instead considered art.  I hemmed and hawed about the body being a beautiful creation of Heavenly Father's and how artists sometimes draw or sculpt the body in its naked form to draw attention to its beauty and wonder, but I wasn't very convincing.   Sam's response was, "Well, we can't draw anything like THAT in art.  That's a rule." Which led to more hemming and hawing about maturity and age and where and when it's appropriate.  Eventually, I just told the boys to turn around and stop looking at the picture.

I know I didn't handle it well and I've been thinking about our conversation and my discomfort ever since.  Truthfully, I didn't like the picture.  Like Sam, I was uncomfortable eating my hamburger next to it. The woman was too...well...naked.  Admittedly,  I have no formal art training to critique color or form or style, but my non-trained eye didn't like the naked part.  Who sits by a river, in that position, without any clothes on? What about twigs and dirt?  Realistically, wouldn't someone without clothes more likely be squatting?

I don't want to be that person, however.  The kind who feels uncomfortable around a nude statue.  The kind who feels that all nudity must be also be sexual.  It feels immature and petty somehow.  I want to see Michaelangelo's David and The Birth of Venus by Botticelli up close and live because even though I know very little about art, I know that those pieces are important.

And yet, I have three sons.  I am scared to death about pornography.  I think it is the scourge of modern-day society.   The cynic in me wonders when and not if they will see it and how I can help them understand that in spite of what the world thinks, it is evil.  I want them to follow President Hinckley's counsel and "Shun it."

How much more simple would it be if I could just say, "Naked people are bad!  Nakedness is bad!  Don't ever be naked or look at anyone naked!   Not ever!"  But I can't.  Because, someday, I hope they will be happily married and well-adjusted enough to love and honor their wives.  And because, maybe someday, they'll be a doctor like their dad, who sees nakedness all the time.  As much as we'd love to have all our parts and pieces clothed during our doctor visits and appointments, sometimes being naked or partially naked is a requirement.  Henry's surgery would have been impossible without exposing a private part.  And mammograms wouldn't have any benefit at all if women refused to uncover their breasts for the procedure or Jay refused to look at them.

My question:  Does nudity have a legitimate place in art?  If so (and I'm assuming it's so), where do you draw the line between art and pornography?  When, as a parent, do you cover your child's eyes?   The Supreme Court once said, "You know pornography when you see it." and I believe that.  This picture in the bar wasn't pornographic.   But, how do I teach my sons what is o.k. and what is not?  How do I ensure that they know pornography when they see it? Because I'd really, really like to skip the part where they see it.  Should I have encouraged Sam's reaction to the restaurant picture? It's exactly how I'd like him to react when he sees pornography.  I want him to be embarrassed and I want him to understand that it's not o.k.   But, I also want them to grow up understanding that our arms and legs, ears, toes, knees and, yes, breasts and bottoms are, in fact, beautiful.  And a wonder.

If you could tell me how to do this perfectly, with no awkwardness and no mistakes, I'd be much obliged.

A much less controversial piece of art by Sam 

15 comments:

Kelly said...

Best quotes: "Mom bum" and "We can't draw that in art"-hilarious and perfectly age appropriate reactions, in my opinion. They are little boys and naked people don't belong in restaurants. Over the years your conversations will have depth-art, human boday, etc, but today, "what about twigs and dirt?"

Neighbor Jane Payne said...

A question for the ages. A really good question for the ages. The fact that you're asking it, and wondering how to answer it pretty much confirms you'll find the answer.


"I suppose she could have been at the river washing her clothes or, perhaps, her kitchen dishes, although her reclined position would have made any thorough scrubbing difficult." This made me laugh. I think that's why I don't know how to appreciate nude art, it always seems to be out of context.

Erin said...

I find myself struggling with this all the time here. I seem to be surrounded by all sorts of "artsy" types who think nudety should be celebrated. So much so that our RS President had no problem seeing "Hair" on Broadway!

Here's my point of view: Whether it's art or not, if it makes you uncomfortable, stay away. That's the Spirit's way of telling you you're near to or have crossed the line. We all feel and respond to the Spirit differently so that's why some people aren't bothered by such things.

Amy Sorensen said...

"But, how do I teach my sons what is o.k. and what is not?"

I think...just lots and lots and LOTS of conversation. I want my sons to grow up with a STRONG sense of women as people and not as objects who exist for their pleasure. That is what pornography does: make women into objects. So we talk a LOT.

To me, naked art is similar to naughty bits in some novels: what is the intent? To get the reader/viewer hot & bothered? Then it is pornography. To make a statement about some aspect of humanity, to make me think in a way I hadn't? Then, I don't think it is.

But it has to be talked about.

Tara said...

Some very good questions. I remember being horrified by Michelangelo's David as a teenager. How would adding a loin cloth make the sculpture any less beautiful?

I'm definitely much more comfortable with Sam's painting. He's a veritable Picasso...I love it!

Denise said...

I don't think there's an easy answer to this. I've long had this dilemma in my own mind. How does one respect the human body, while at the same time exposing it?

I suppose it comes down to whether it's done to titillate or to inspire, in salaciousness or reverence. Or something. Though to be honest, I think a lot of artists painting their mistresses lounging around in the buff have really blurred that line.

Kelly said...

I know that pornography can be an issue for women, too, but man, it sure seems to hit the men harder. I don't have any advice to offer, but I think by keeping the conversation open then it won't be a secretive thing. I think when kids are uncomfortable talking with their parents, that's a set up for problems.

I loved Sam's reaction about not being able to paint THAT in art, and your musings about twigs and dirt being justified obstacles to outdoor nudity.

Lucy said...

I guess I don't know how to make THAT conversation comfortable. Because, I agree that the line is crossed, in literature and with visuals, when the intent is to arouse, or, like Amy said, make someone "hot and bothered."

It's the talking about being hot and bothered with my sons that is uncomfortable. I can remember reading a Harlequin romance once (so embarrassing, but true. I used to read them all the time but haven't for years and years)and my mom coming to sit down next to me (seriously, I read them in front of my mother!) and saying something to the tune of, "I know these books can arouse certain feelings. Do you get these feelings when you read these books?" Not in those exact words, but that sentiment.

I can still feel the heat in my cheeks! So uncomfortable! And, sorry, Mom. I know you were having a parental moment and I'm sure I quickly rolled my eyes and moved away.

The thing that stressed me about pornography is that it's so quickly addictive. I need to read more about it, but I know I've read somewhere that the male brain is set up in such a way that those visual images cause a chemical response. It's that endocrine system that fuels the need to have that response again and again, causing the addiction.

But, I've also read several books published by the church where men and women both are almost dysfunctional when it comes to intimacy because of the shame they have come to associate with sex and nudity in particular.

I just feel like I'm at such a disadvantage being a woman. I know what's right, but I don't know what it's like being a boy. I don't think I can presume to know.

Kelly said...

I just want to know what restaurant were you at????

Lucy said...

The Palace right by the train depot. It's usually such a quaint place to eat with the big fireplace in the middle and the goblets for water. Plus, I crave their salad and really need to figure out their dressing so I can stop overpaying for greens, parmesan cheese and some kind of oil and vinegar mix.

Anonymous said...

About a month ago we were looking at art up in SLC and there were two different pieces with nudity- a painting and a photograph. Mya noticed them both and blushed at the public display and I asked her how they made her feel. She is only five though, so for her it was all "I don't want people seeing ME like that!" And "I'm not gunna draw someone's butt crack." And then she asked why it was okay...I kinda explained how you did.

The next day I went to the library and got a couple books with art and we looked through them. Not all nude stuff, but all kinds of human figure type art- painting, line drawing, sculpture, photography. And just talked so it didn't feel so taboo. We talked about respect and modesty and natural beauty. And then she wanted to go off and draw- and nothing nude showed up :)

I don't know how different it would be with boys- but just taking control of that and not making it something to be ashamed of felt like the right thing to do.

Sue said...

Thanks for clarifying which restaurant so that I can avoid the bar with MY boys.
I laughed out loud at "Mom, bum" and the thought of sitting, rather than squatting, in dirt. I'm also glad to know that first graders aren't allowed to draw naked bums in art class. Thanks, Miss Kate!
You have the funniest things happen to you!

Wendy Hill said...

I would have reacted the same way (and believe me my boys would have been all over that painting and I'm guessing my MS would have been attempting to copy the painting at home for a good long time afterwards, too).

It is, as you say, a very difficult issue to walk through. Good things can be rendered evil by evil use and intent.

I, too, worry about my boys and pornography. I have just entered the stage where I have to begin dealing with my ES's budding sexuality. I have been very open with him, and we talk comfortably, but I still worry that I will either respond in a way that increases his curiosity or attaches some sort of taboo. I actually did explain to him the whole mechanics of what happens in the brain when a boy/man views porn (I have heard it likened to the retention of an image you get when some commonly shared disaster occurs like the explosion of the space shuttle or 9/11).

Apart from that, I'm determined to pray fervently for their protection from those evils. But, I still feel the quandry.

Wendy Hill said...

I must add, awesome art by Sam! I'll have to show that to MS!

He was watching Ripley's Believe it or Not this afternoon and they did an episode on a NM artist who uses explosions to create art in metal. He actually looked at me and suggested we try something like that. Ha!

Barb said...

A friend of mine got called into school because her young son had drawn a full frontal naked picture of a little boy. Afterwards she asked her son why had he done that and he replied that the teacher had taken the picture away before he was done and he hadn't had time to draw the clothes on yet. Ha!

I didn't start having the 'hot and bothered' 'chemical reaction in the brain' pornography conversations with Steven till he was 12. It seemed like a good fit, but some would argue too late. It's so tough to protect their childhood and at the same time protect their future adulthood!